An idea for taking down gulags

[Ayliana]

What we need to do is send someone into the school as a new student. This inside informant will stay in the school for a given amount of time that he or she chooses; no less than a week, no more than a month. (Unless voted on, and agreed to by the student.)

Obviously this informant has to look like a teenager. This really won't be too hard. There are plenty of adults in they're early 20's that look like teens. In retrospect there are plenty of 15 and 16 year olds who look like they're 22. They will never tell the differance just by looking at your face. (obviously we're going to need false papers.)

Or better yet an emancipated teenager. What better bait than the real thing?

Another informant, who has to look at least 30 or 40 years old will act as the 'problem childs' parent or gaurdian. They will place the other in the gulag, visit, and pull him/her out at the given time.

Visits will not only be a time for informants to exchange info but for the 'parent' to examine the 'child', making sure that they're holding out both physically and mentally. If there is any evidence suggesting otherwise then the inside informant will be pulled immediatly. Edit: There must always be at least one visit per stay. If the 'child' is going to be in the gulag for a month there needs to be at least two.

As well as collecting witness testimony, the inside informant should try to gather as many names, numbers and addresses as humanly possible. At the very least if we can get one parent to pull thier child then we've succeded.

After the given time, the 'parent' pulls thier 'child' out and sends him or her to a hospital to be examined.

Testimony is gathered, law suit is filed, then parents and relatives are called. We don't want parents pulling thier kids out before the suit is filed and telling the employees why. That would be bad. It would give them time to clean themselves up for the CPS investigation that they'll know is coming.

You can volunteer to be a 'student' only once, and 'parents' can be rotated. Former 'students' can volunteer to be parents. 'Students' have to have health insurance. It would also be a plus to be in good physical condition.

For they're trouble the 'students' get at least $500 for each week they spend in Hell. 'Parents' get $250 per week.

Now all we need is the resources to pull it off. ;) If it helps I volunteer to be a student. Because with the time its going to take to prepare this project, its going to take a year to get set up. :D

This really isn't much differant than people who go online pretending to be kids so they can attract and arrest predators.

[greaternyrania]

If someone decided to do this, I'd do everything I could to help them. Its a great idea.

[Bongermann]

Ill talk to my mom, I doubt she would go for it, but I need her permission for the time from school. I am seriously contemplating doing this, as in, if I can get out of school without being kicked out. I can take a punch like a sombitch. Might I suggest the obvious taking pictures of the childs bruises?

[SciVille]

You're very brave, Bong.:)

[Ayliana]

Oh of course, that would happen during the medical examination right after the child is pulled out.

Its good that you can take a punch. But(pun intended), can can you take a needle up the ass like Xavier said has happened to his stepbrother?

Edit: Hey Sci! I volunteered too ya know!

[Bongermann]

Oh, I can take the needles, trust me. I have no issues with needles, being punched, starved, whatever they throw at me. Havent talked to my mom about it yet though.

[SciVille]

Oh, sorry Alyson! Didn't mean to leave you out. You're very brave, too.;)

[Ayliana]

Bong maybe you should hold off on talking to your mom about actually doing this, until we're be certain my plan can be used, and if so when.

And Katrina, I'm just busting your ba-- oh wait... sorry wrong phrase... unless of course you're hiding something from us. ;)

[Anduwaithe]

Busting her ovaries, perhaps? :cute:

[XavierAKadafi]

Those needles have some heavy duty tranquilizers in them.

[SciVille]

Gasp! Not my seed!:lol:

[Anduwaithe]

I've heard people say that a woman has "great ovarian fortitude" as a female equivalent of "he's real ballsy", actually...

[KPalicz]

Beyond just a lawsuit, because people file them all the time, a school gets shut down and moves. The best way to do this would be to send in opperatives, and then get a stack of visual evidence. Send it to the media. Make documentaries out of it. Make awesome online movies/flash things, and spread it around virally. Get everyone to confront the reality of these torture chambers.

Sending in someone as a "student" would be difficult, as these schools are expensive from what I've heard. We'd need mucho money to pay tuition for a place like that. Though perhaps as a staff member.... then you'd have relatively more freedom to sneak in spy cameras and such.

Though its not a good idea to discuss this in the open, as we all know this forum is frequented by gulag school opperatives.

[AYamet]

The informant would have to have a hidden camera in their glasses or something.
I swear to you if I had a camera in my glasses for every time a kid was knocked upside the head at my old school it'd be shut down by now.

[colonel]

There may also be the risk of a gulag school not wanting to release the student after only a week.

Colonel John Doe
Commanding Officer, the Cameron Highlanders Militia for Freedom and Democracy

[AYamet]

Parents always have the final say. In a case where the school wanted to keep the child for more than a week (and they most definitely would) the parents (or people pretending to be parents) would withdraw their child.

[Fabuluke]

Wow. I must say, that is a brilliant idea. ^___^

:D Too bad it's going to be hella-expensive...I'd love to see those schools get taken down.

[Ayliana]

There may also be the risk of a gulag school not wanting to release the student after only a week.

Hmm yeah that would suck.

But to add onto what others have said, they've already been paid (in most cases ahead of time), they shouldn't really have much of a problem releasing a student.

[XavierAKadafi]

if they refuse, we go in there with tear gas and machine guns with infrared beams and scopes....

Or wait... that's what they do at drug raids.... not to mention hand cuffing fuckin' 12 year olds...

[Ayliana]

I'm pretty sure we wouldn't need all of that, Xav.

The mere mention of the word lawsuit should get the school to fork over the kid.

Which brings me to another idea I have. We should have counsel ready for those students who turn 18 while in the gulag. Obviously we can't do this any earlier because that would be circumventing the parents decision. But once the student is 18, they have no more legal control.

What we do is we get information of students in these schools from friends and other realitives. We wait one day after thier birthday, then we sue the school on behalf of the student for false imprisonment of a legal adult.

[XavierAKadafi]

hmph.. FINE! ruin my fun...

[Ayliana]

If it makes your feel any better you can paint ball the place one night when the security is low.

And make sure you use frozen paint balls for the windows.

[XavierAKadafi]

they have a building?

[Watchaduen]

Sorry to say that this idea won't work. When we placed our son at Bethel Boys Academy, Lucedale, MS. we had paid $20,000 cashier's check and also left $4,000 in cash for his orthodontist appts. We rescued him 3 1/2 days later and put a stop payment on the check. Thank GOD it hadn't been cashed yet so we got the $20,000 back. When we were rescuing our child we simply told John Fountain, the director/owner that we had changed our minds and wanted our son. He tried to talk us out of it. When that didn't work he went onto explain that it was the most expensive three days of our lives. But that being the good christian man he was, he would keep our money on file for another year in case we wanted to bring our son back. He had full intentions of keeping all that money - greedy asshole. All the parents that have rescued their kids never got a dime back. Heck, when the State of Miss. went in two weeks later and removed those 13 boys for obvious signs of abuse and neglect. The state also would NOT allow the parents to return any of those boys to Bethel. Yet, the state also did nothing about the fact that all those parents were now out thousands and thousands of dollars.
Also, you need to remember how many victims lose their lives at places like these. An investigation starts and in the end, the death is ruled an accident. Business as usual the following day.

[KPalicz]

See thats why I figure we should infiltrate it by being an employee there, not just by signing up.

[XavierAKadafi]

there are public gulag schools..

[annexo]

You mean some of these 'schools' are paid with public taxpayer money?

[Ayliana]

I would highly doubt it.

Unless of course he's talking about Juvy.

[XavierAKadafi]

No, I don't jest you at all.

My step brother just got out of one. Mind you it wasn't near as abusive, but my dad didn't have to pay a penny for it. And countless group homes.. They broke his arm and collar bone and hand...

[Wesjared]

I have an idea (by the way I just found and joined this forum a few minutes ago, so, HELLO!). From my research into Gulags, one of the few consistencies I found with them is that the staff are hopelessly unqualified. It would be much easier to get in and document abuse by applying for work at one of the "schools". You might even be able to help some of the inmates out.

[canary]

Can someone tell me what Gulags is? Is this a slag term used for these so called boarding schools

Could be there is someone on the inside. A lil bird perhaps.

[Fabuluke]

A gulag was originally a squalid, oppressive prison camp used in the Soviet Union. Political dissidents and intellectuals were quite often sent there. Now, the term is applied to schools where 'troubled' teenagers are sent for 'behavior modification.' These schools are also extremely squalid, and have terrible conditions.

[canary]

Thanks for the clarification.

Im fully aware of the bullshit that takes place in these "schools" I have some experiance with them.

Are there any open investigations which are in need of info? If so, how would one make contact. And get technical support such as recorders, and cameras that are easily hidden and managed.

[KPalicz]

Gulag schools all cost a lot, are you saying you are being sent to one and you want to smuggle in a recorder?

[canary]

Im employed by one unfortunatly. Id like to go in wired for sound.

[KPalicz]

Excellent, a real insider :b:

I'm gonna PM you, away from prying eyes...

[Ayliana]

Sweet my plan is going to work! :banana:

[greaternyrania]

Godspeed, Canary.

[canary]

Thanks, Not to be offensive but as soon as I read that. Psalm 23 knocked on the cranium door.

[SciVille]

Psalm 23
The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want.
He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.
He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.
Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the Lord forever.
That one?:)

Not the least bit offensive.;)

[XavierAKadafi]

much luck to you.