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Adamantaimai
July 18th, 2008, 03:32 AM
source (http://www.sj-r.com/news/x1346885680/House-Republicans-accuse-Democrat-of-spreading-racial-hatred)



Three Republican state representatives accused a Democratic colleague of spreading “racial hatred” during a committee meeting Wednesday and demanded that the speaker of the House investigate the incident.

“That type of racial hatred that was displayed in committee went out with the ’70s, and I respectfully request that you review the transcript,” Rep. Jim Sacia, R-Pecatonica, said on the House floor.

The target of his complaint, Rep. Monique Davis, D-Chicago, denied saying anything improper.

A recording of the hearing shows that while Davis alleged that some lawmakers want to keep crime rates up so that prisons stay full, the racial content was minimal.

She argued that her fellow African-American legislators must fight hard for legislation to help former criminals go straight.

“To me, that’s bringing race into a debate,” said Rep. Ron Stephens, R-Greenville. “I maintain my position: She brought race into the debate and should be chastised.”

While legislators often gripe at one another, publicly accusing a fellow lawmaker of racist behavior is almost unheard of, and asking for an official review is rare.

Steve Brown, spokesman for House Speaker Michael Madigan, D-Chicago, said the speaker’s office will “work to comply with the request” for a review. He would not elaborate.

The dispute arose when a committee debated legislation setting up a loan program to help ex-convicts start businesses.

Davis said some of the measure’s opponents “don’t want to stop crime” because they have prisons in their districts and want to keep the facilities full.

She said their attitude is, “We’ve got to have those prisons. They’ve got to come down here from Chicago and we’ve got to keep them filled because that’s how we get work. ... We no longer have farms. We don’t raise cows and pigs. We keep prisons.”

Although Davis later denied mentioning race at all, the recording shows she told the measure’s sponsor that black lawmakers must do more to help people avoid a life of crime.

“What you’re fighting, and what African-Americans down here have to fight harder, is to stop this continued recidivism because opportunities are denied,” she said.

The critics of the loan legislation are white, as are many lawmakers with prisons in their districts.

Stephens originally charged that Davis had said some lawmakers want to keep prisons filled with “black people from Chicago.”

Even after the recording of the hearing showed that Davis had not specified black people, Stephens said she had still crossed the line.

Sacia also maintained that Davis’ comments were “highly racist.”

Rep. Dennis Reboletti, R-Elmhurst, was the third lawmaker to rise on the House floor and condemn Davis. He accused her of “race-baiting.”

Rep. LaShawn Ford, a black Chicago Democrat who sponsored the legislation that sparked the dispute, said he didn’t consider Davis’ comments racist or offensive.

Does anyone see any racism whatsoever in Davis' comments? I don't. Not to mention that she's absolutely correct.

Agnapostate
July 18th, 2008, 03:49 AM
Pelosi's in her "total failure" mood though. :p

Oroso
July 18th, 2008, 07:50 PM
She argued that her fellow African-American legislators must fight hard forThat's unacceptable because if a white elected official, especially if it was a Republican, asked other white elected officials to help him do something we all know how it would come out.

Agnapostate
July 18th, 2008, 08:43 PM
Whites aren't a minority group with the same sort of special interests and needs, and are not in need of race-based collaboration.

justriot
July 18th, 2008, 10:14 PM
It's just another right-wing attempt to destroy the already ruined reputation of the democratic party.

Oroso
July 18th, 2008, 11:02 PM
Whites aren't a minority group with the same sort of special interests and needs, and are not in need of race-based collaboration.
Define racism.

It's just another right-wing attempt to destroy the already ruined reputation of the democratic party.
Like the Lewinsky scandal?

Got Liberty?
July 19th, 2008, 01:00 PM
Whites aren't a minority group with the same sort of special interests and needs, and are not in need of race-based collaboration.

Oh, the "pale skin equals silver spoon" fallacy.

It occurs to me that a politician in certain districts could get votes by telling white constituents what no one else is willing to: they're entitled to everything their black brothers are.

Agnapostate
July 19th, 2008, 03:12 PM
:shame:

Galen
July 20th, 2008, 08:35 PM
I have to agree that it was at least low-brow, if not completely racist. That she would even mention race as a factor in whether someone should or should not do something is uncalled for. Race has no business being a factor in anything, period.

Agnapostate
July 20th, 2008, 11:17 PM
Well, I'd have to disagree with that, because public officials of a racial minority are typically elected in districts where that racial minority is a majority of the population and elects those officials for the purpose of representing them and combating social ills unique to their population. So it's really more of a class issue than a race issue.

Adamantaimai
July 21st, 2008, 01:01 AM
I agree that race should not be a factor in anything, but I still would not call her comments racist. "Racist," in my mind, implies "racially bigoted and prejudiced," not just "race conscious." I would very much like to get rid of all the "race consciousness" out there and live in a perfectly colorblind society.

Got Liberty?
July 21st, 2008, 12:43 PM
Oh yeah. :drools:

Agnapostate
July 21st, 2008, 06:15 PM
I think we're all in essential agreement that black slaves deserved what they got because they couldn't pull themselves up by their bootstraps, right? :yup:

mandelduke
July 21st, 2008, 06:53 PM
The minorities got so bad in the U.S.A. I am breaking out in tears for them.

Ralph
July 21st, 2008, 07:54 PM
I think we're all in essential agreement that black slaves deserved what they got because they couldn't pull themselves up by their bootstraps, right? :yup:

If Haile Selassie I could put in the effort to avoid having his ancestors be captured and kept enslaved, become Emperor of Ethiopia, and have a million people consider him God a continent and an ocean away, Toby could've had the grit and determination to remain Kunta Kinte. :stunned:

Agnapostate
July 21st, 2008, 07:55 PM
Well, the fact that some Africans didn't get captured had nothing to do with their living on the other side of the continent; it was their rugged individualism and unwillingness to rely on handouts that got them through it. ;)

Got Liberty?
July 22nd, 2008, 01:10 PM
Har har.
Just so you know, I consider the enslavement of the technologically inferior Africans morally equal to stealing candy from a baby.

And a totally different paradigm from non-military, race-blind "enslavement."

But if you must argue, quote me in the other thread. Let's not contaminate this one.

Agnapostate
July 22nd, 2008, 05:11 PM
I don't see the point of that, considering that my arguments don't get responded to.

Got Liberty?
July 23rd, 2008, 01:17 PM
Everything does, I'm just only around once a day.

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